Is PVP going to be balanced, ever ?

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  1. nvmind

    nvmind Forum Inhabitant

    I'm playing since 2 years now, but I'm not a hardcore player, nor I invested too much money in, so I don't have a strong character, more like 3 weak ones, playing for fun.
    PVP always was and still is very unbalanced, mixing all the time very strong players, with high PVP rank, with weak players, so we, the latter are just meat for the strong ones, no fun at all... i.e. what chances a legionnaire has when fighting a field marshal ?
    PVP, in general, should be a game of skills, not of "who's the biggest farmer", or in case of this game, payer.
     
  2. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    I don't think it will ever be balanced. There are too many factors and game philosophy to make it truly balanced (gem tiers, glyphs, honor points, knowledge). Not to mention they've never really put much effort into actually balancing pvp since its existence.
     
  3. nvmind

    nvmind Forum Inhabitant

    There is none of that, it is much more simple, just follow the other games. You are strong, you go up in rank, you fight your level.
    If you are marshal, fight 2, 3 ranks below and above you, not centurions or similar.
    Also, following the other games, if you loose battles, you should loose points too and go down in rank, so you always fight players at your real level. (i.e. don't balance it based on your gems and glyphs, but based on your skills).

    If a marshal and legionnaire are in the same group, that group shouldn't be allowed to register for pvp (as it is right now when players with a difference of +6 levels are in the same group)

    I really don't mind fighting strong players that are my pvp rank, they will go up fast and I'll see them again when I will get stronger and go up too

    From my experience PVP = skills, but of course, there is the other thing, the general feeling that this is intended as it is and we are just meat for heavy payers.
     
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  4. eedman86

    eedman86 Junior Expert

    Imagine the waiting time for getting one 5v5. Small servers like Tegan will be greatly affected where 6v6 is almost non-existent at the moment. There are enough players already complaining about not getting any PvP match-ups because they're too strong.
     
  5. nvmind2

    nvmind2 Forum Apprentice

    Same on balor, where I play, almost impossible to get a 5v5 is you're not lv 50.
    Sometimes the effect is the opposite of what you expect. Can be that for a balanced pvp more players (which are now very frustrated of how it is) will start playing and pvp will be very popular.
    I like playing in arena when I fight my level, but that happens so rarely, so now I just play to win 2 games for daily quest, once per week. I play for fun, not for others' laugh that they are 10 pvp levels over mine. Even if I loose, when I play my level I have fun, at least I gave few hits, I took half his life. Right now they are just sitting and laughing. I hit 10 times and not a scratch, then I'm killed in 2 hits. Same happens to other players and they just don't enter arena anymore.

    What happens right now on balor, at levels below 50, is that one strong player registers for 1v1 and we, the rest, are going and fight him 3, 4 times and then give up pvp for next hour, until he exits, because it makes no sense.. If it would be balanced I would play it every day.
     
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  6. AmerickaNindza

    AmerickaNindza Junior Expert

    maybe you dont know it yet but you answered yourself on your own question with first sentence. PvP is tottaly anoter universe comparing to PvE. you can just run into battle with just about any setup. BUILD YOUR CHAR BEFORE YOU ENTER ARENA WORLD

    -- MERGED --

    ranking doesnt mean anything now. there are centurions beating the crap out of field marshals. rank did matter maybe at level 45 but now game is changed. and this topic about ''imbalance'' in general should be banned.
     
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  7. nvmind2

    nvmind2 Forum Apprentice

    :) I've been playing long enough to know what I'm saying. Arena is not exclusive for strong characters, but for everyone. Balance is the key to fun

    Ranking would be everything if depending on battles you win or loose, you go up and down the ranking.. you will always play at your level, you will always have the fun of fighting someone your level.. think about

    and the idea of banning a topic about imbalance would come only from an ignorant (no offense given) that thinks only of himself, that got a somehow strong character and got up in rank and is afraid he will fight his level only and not have the pleasure of killing beginners.. I understand you don't need any balance as you're close the the top, this is not something for your level, but for lower pvp levels. We have no fun fighting you, we want to fight between us.
     
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  8. fab

    fab Advanced

    They create sw the most useless class ever, dks got immunity in singularity and they got tons of blocks and armour.
    Where is this balanced dev, waste time and money on this stupid game of theirs, pui
    Sw got low hp and damage cant even scratch a dk, i got superior gems and gears and yet their rage jump is more than 5k.
    Sw by default should have higher critical hit rate then other characters due to their low armour and hp !
    Spellweavers is simply a MORON in the game
    Stop playing the game is theh best option for me
     
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  9. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    Does that include no more posts as well?
     
  10. nvmind

    nvmind Forum Inhabitant

    I hope so :)
    This was off topic, I've raised an obvious issue about the balance between players, not between classes. A rookie mistake to mix them up :)
    The balance between classes is too sensitive and somehow relative. I like playing pvp with my DK as I like it with my mage, is a mater of taste.
    I started the discussion about the fights between players at different pvp rank levels.
    Me, as a legionnaire DK, I'm registering for 1v1, go into battle and fight a legionnaire mage. I loose, but I took almost all his life. That made me register again, I knew I can catch him next time and win. Next time though I got a flag bearer dwarf. He just stood there and I was hitting him several times using my best skills, his HP bar didn't move a bit, while he was laughing, then 2 turrets and 5 shoots later I was dead. I registered again, but got same dwarf... no chance. One more try after that, but the same.. I just stood there, waiting to be killed, no point in fighting him. No other players were registering for 1v1 while that guy was there. After that I just gave up playing pvp for that day.
    A balanced game would have kept me, and others my level, playing pvp for hours...
     
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  11. KellueéHazé

    KellueéHazé Junior Expert

    [​IMG] Wow I think ive had enough of the "balanced" 5v5
     
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