Exhaustion - take off that madness

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Are you want to put off exhaustion from arena and change it on sth better?

  1. Yes

    61.9%
  2. No

    33.3%
  3. Yes but i got other idea - i will post it here

    4.8%
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  1. Drover

    Drover Padavan

    Hi fox!

    Here we go with some new idea of change. Exhaustion - kills are arena 1v1 and 3v3, and makes for some of punks - nice bug on farm wins. Let it put clear:

    - I don`t have any problem with defend and run on any way - at arena - it`s a part of it.
    - I play on grimmag server - and my mag is one of the old one and good one - here my stats:


    STATS


    Point is if we all take dictionary and looks on word as FIGHT - ARENA, winning by exhaustion - run, hide - will be not at that list. I think glory is sth for guys who are active there, who FIGHT as hell who trying to win - not for tanks with 100 dmg and 40k hp - waiting as exploit of that arena will kill rest...

    Look how it`s looks vs. me - versus (I can said it loud) one of the top mags on grimmag server:


    Idea is simple - wee need to take off that madness exhaustion from game ! What we do instead
    ?

    Simple and fair - the fight win person who collect more points of glory in that fight as time end. All will be fight, stuns, and trying to gets better statistic. If time will end and all will still stand on arena - better (more activ) player would win. Whole that exploit will end, whole that run-away fights will end. 3v3 fights will be faster and more exciting. Arena will be more fair.

    That`s it fox - i hope on yours support in that subject!
     
  2. BurdushSM

    BurdushSM Forum Apprentice

    My answer is simple - we should keep exhaustion in game and opportunity to everyone in their own way to win. Somebody invested in damage, someone in healt, armor, etc. and someone in nothing. So either, be stronger or be wiser or maybe faster.
     
  3. Drover

    Drover Padavan

    Sorry but I don`t see anything wise in that play. And it`s tactic only for TANKS ... other class will always fall with them - even if they puts whole thinks on defend mode ! Arena need to ba FAIR and equal for all class not only for one, and it`s still arena to FIGHT - not to hide and runs away - i makes 120k dmg per 2 rounds - and what - yeah exhaustion kills me not him, not his wise play, nope - simple exploit of arena!
     
  4. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    I would just be increasing dmg by 5%-10% every second when the time is off.
     
  5. thuglifederp

    thuglifederp Active Author

    This has to be changed.
    I would get mad if time runned out and i would get 20 badges after a round that i dealt more dmg.
    But if ther remove the exhaustion and just give free time till someone dies players will find ways to exploit this .
     
  6. Lunasea

    Lunasea Forum Greenhorn

    extremelly unballanced. they need to fix again the tanks. i have seen pics and videos of people doing more than 100k dmg in 1vs1 versus a tank, and the tank does only 5k dmg and he wins.
    Or the unlimited stuns...! How can you give to him unlimited stuns, when the enemy has only 2 "un-stun" ?
    Tanks kill you with "charge" 1 hit, with 4600 dmg 2 handed... and if you are 1 hitted. But you who have 7200 dmg , you cannot 1 hit them.
    they will charge on you and you cant do anything. Since you "fixed" the dwarves, you could do the same for tanks. Thanks.
     
  7. BurdushSM

    BurdushSM Forum Apprentice

    As a dwarf (I only play this character and also I have very good damage) suits me option to take off exhaustion from game, but as I already wrote, let's give a chance to everyone that everyone wins in its own way, one if it be DK, next time someone else. The more ways to win, thus the game more interesting.
     
  8. Drover

    Drover Padavan

    Yeah most interesting think what we get from exhaustion is 3v3 when 2 same "tanks" fight on opposite side and whole dead players waits 20 min - because those "fighters" run - mix items - run - mix items - it`s SOOOOO INTERESTING - that any of as just CAN WAIT ON IT...
     
  9. Dom4.2

    Dom4.2 Junior Expert

    Hello,
    I don't see any problems in your video. This warrior try all actions to kill you.
    The best runner in this part is you.

    When head nut is applicated, you use teleportation. When you use the singularity, his armor is broken and you have time to hit him.
     
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  10. BurdushSM

    BurdushSM Forum Apprentice

    I agree with that and maybe "top mag" could take 2H and solve the problem with the DK-there's a lot faster. So, stop crying and play. You can't always win. Over and out.
     
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  11. joe6699

    joe6699 Junior Expert

    Exhaustion is complete madness like you said, it's easier for DK to build a tank build than a balanced one. I always think that when the time is up in duel, it could end in a draw instead of dragging the fight for too long....
     
  12. Beldak

    Beldak Regular

    Exhaustion is good, but need to be according to the player HP, the more HP you have the more you lose % wise
     
  13. dragonlordz

    dragonlordz Junior Expert

    The exhaustion is very biased towards wars and dwarves with the healing capabilities that they have, rangers can have a short period of healing with dogs but mages with their small lives and no healing at all will lose to a war that runs around like a panzy with max hp and armor that knows what they are doing
     
  14. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    That is funny coming from you... I seem to remember seeing this video from you where you use this tactic against tanks... and winning! (go to 3:20 for first instance. Ends up winning 2/1 despite an early loss.)

    I was going to post Luna's video when I read this, but when I saw Luna here complaining about that method, it made things even funnier to me.
    Except all healing skills end when exhaustion begins, so this gear removal trick is the only way to delay the inevitable.


    That being said, I'm a DK, and I don't use this method. Mostly that is because my fights never last that long. Either I kill my target in the first 30 seconds, or they kill me because either they don't have enough HP to survive my DPS, or they whittle my HP away with their DPS while I can't catch them. Still, this method is broken and needs to be addressed. Exhaustion with no HP regen is necessary, otherwise, there will be 20 min log matches. We've seen that before. But this loophole with gear removal needs to be closed too. My thoughts are that the HP the player has when exhaustion begins is what is used to calculate the damage they receive during exhaustion, and the number won't change during exhaustion. If you start by losing 500 HP per second, and you cut your HP in half by taking gear off, you should still be taking 500 HP per second, not 250.
     
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  15. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    Phooey. Just another, "I got beat so change the game mechanics" thread.

    Luck be with ye,
    Mikey,
    Tegan
     
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  16. Randomn00b1

    Randomn00b1 Forum Greenhorn

    U think that will solve problems of EDIT tank like this ? so check out this vid on his channel...
    it's only a example, with 2h u always will have to low deff stats and sooner or later EDIT like him with 500 dmg will kill u.
     
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  17. ViktorG75

    ViktorG75 Active Author

    If DSO nerf DK, exhaustion can be changed/deleted. Today i spend 15 minutes watching the two DK timeless fight in 3vs3. They, almost, stand side by side and wait the exhaustion to declare the winner.
     
  18. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Very easy solution:
    - Remove the exhaustion
    - Extend the round duration for 30 seconds.
    - If the round is over both players die
    - Even if they die they both get "win" on their account (now let us see if you are challenging the player on duel to show off your skills or you were training running for the Olympics)
    - Since they are both winning that round both are getting XP (because of the twinks)
     
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  19. Lunasea

    Lunasea Forum Greenhorn

    I am not crymaker. We share same youtube account, but not the same drakensang account. This slanyaravich tank, has a lot of pics with people making even 171k dmg on him and he still wins by doing only 5k dmg to others. Of course i am against.Its called pvp, not hide and seek. I support Drovers` opinion, expressed mine too, and thats it.
     
  20. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I forgot to add:
    - It is obvious that one match can lead to "Draw" ... so yes no winners and no extra points. That will stimulate the players to play for win not for draw.
     
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