Help me calculate the crafting chance

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  1. Yamaac_chocobo

    Yamaac_chocobo Junior Expert

    Someone help me calculate the chance to get both of these gold line if i craft with 2 other trash gun :

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  2. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    1/28 * 100%

    For example:
    Chance of getting first random stat you need is 2/8, because you have 2 atts you like out of 8.

    Chance of getting the second one is 1/7, because out of remaining 7, you have only one you need. The first one was taken on step 1.

    So 2/8 * 1/7 = 1/4 * 1/7 = 1/28 (*100%)

    Or, you can just calculate number of combinations
    8 choose 2 = 28. Since you would only accept 1 combination out of 28 possible, it is 1/28th

    Should you placw 3 blue items like that, chances would be 3/8 * 2/7 = 3/28

    In case of 4 items, - 4/8 * 3/7 = 3 / 14

    Generic formula would be:

    (G choose n) / (P choose n), where
    n - is number of lines going into crafted item
    G - total number of good stats in 4 items
    P - total number of stats in for items.

    Formula for N choose K is (N!) / (K! * (N - K)!)
    N! = 1 * 2 * ... * (N-1) * N

    Example with purple items. You have 2/3, 2/3, 1/3, 0/3 purple items, where the first number is golden lines. Your chaces:
    G = 2 + 2 + 1 = 5 (golden lines)
    P = 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 12 (total number of lines)
    n = 3 (go into legendary)
    (5 choose 3) / (12 choose 3) = 10 / 220 * 100% = 1/22 * 100% = ~4.5454%

    This does not take into account a possibility of last random attrubute being good. That chance is marginal, however, so could be ignored
     
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  3. Wllf

    Wllf Advanced

    In case you were wondering... That is about 7% :)
     
  4. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    Actually it is ~3.57% ;)
     
  5. Yamaac_chocobo

    Yamaac_chocobo Junior Expert

    Thank for the reply guys
    Especially thank for your formula serbastian, it's very helpful xD
     
  6. Armando

    Armando Forum Connoisseur

    If you want to save time doing the calculations, you can also use the probability table I posted here. Good luck!
     
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  7. Yamaac_chocobo

    Yamaac_chocobo Junior Expert

    wow, amazing! ty alot for that table :D
     
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  8. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Long story short, it takes a lot of gold, junk items, and luck (which all adds up to a lot of time), but it can be done.
     
  9. Wllf

    Wllf Advanced

    2/28 is about 7%... Yes?
     
  10. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Yes, but the desired outcome has a 1/28 chance, not a 2/28 (1/14) chance.

    Bottom line, unless you like math, just use Armando's table.
     
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  11. Wllf

    Wllf Advanced

    I was counting values not outcomes I think. Stupid mistake. :rolleyes: I think I'll just use Armando's table... :p
     
  12. Sunlight

    Sunlight User

    Hey there heroes,

    Thank you for your answers ;)
    @Yamaac_chocobo , was your question fully answered or do you have anything more to ask? ;)

    Cheers,
     
  13. Yamaac_chocobo

    Yamaac_chocobo Junior Expert

    I have no more thing to ask, you can close now :D
     
  14. Sunlight

    Sunlight User

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